• bearforcepilot@lemmy.zip
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    6 hours ago

    There’s a fairly hard limit in the kind of paywall that can be put in front of lighters, axes and pencils.

    Not all technology is bad, not all exchanges are detrimental.

    People keep doing this - arguing that if you’re against AI you must not want to use any technology.

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      5 hours ago

      There’s a hard limit on the kind of paywall you can put on LLMs as well. Open source models exist and companies / people are increasingly turning to them instead of shelling out millions to the frontier labs. Even the frontier models are becoming increasingly commoditized as it’s relatively easy to swap out which model a given application is using. If anthropic starts charging exorbitant rates per token you can switch to a gpt or Gemini model relatively easily.

      People keep doing this - arguing that if you’re against AI you must not want to use any technology.

      Because that’s what happens if you take this argument and apply it to almost any other technology. If you are truly worried about skill atrophy you shouldn’t use calculators to preserve your math skills, you shouldn’t use gps to keep navigation skills, you shouldn’t use the Internet for research to keep library skills, and there were people at the time when these were introduced making those exact arguments that we now regard as irrelevant. Why this time the argument will be relevant has not been shown to me.

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        5 hours ago

        Why would you take that argument and apply it elsewhere? Not every argument applies to every single thing.

        Again, rather than just “maybe we should hold onto the skills we have”, the AI brain solution is “let’s just build our own infrastructure for doing the thinking for us”.

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          4 hours ago

          Why would you take that argument and apply it elsewhere?

          Ask Immanuel Kant . If you inconsistently apply an argument then that is a sign of hypocriticality, ie. Lack of criticality. The hypocrite inconsistently applies criticisms to support an already held belief that is independent of that argument.

          For example if I said immigration should be banned but carved out an exception for European countries, then that means I don’t actually believe that immigration should be banned, it probably means I don’t like brown people and am using this argument in bad faith to justify that belief.

          The sign of a good argument is consistency, and any inconsistent application of it requires an explanation.

          If calculators, gps, and the internet are exceptions to the rule of avoiding skill atrophy, explain why. Otherwise you are being a hypocrite.