cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/74048002

I’ve seen : "${DB_HOST:=localhost}" because it assigns the variable if not set (: $… is just to run assignments standalone).

But that has the same effect like DB_HOST="${DB_HOST:-localhost} (use the string if not set).

While something like echo "${DB_HOST:=localhost}" smells from a mile, because it has output with side-effects.

  • unboundedwhat@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 days ago

    Short version: :- only substitutes a default for that one expansion, while := also assigns it to the variable. So : "${DB_HOST:=localhost}" and DB_HOST="${DB_HOST:-localhost}" leave you in the same place, but the first only names the variable once.

    The leading : is just the no-op builtin. Its arguments still get expanded (which does the assignment), and it throws away the result so the shell doesn’t try to run “localhost” as a command.

    A couple of details that might matter:

    • The word is only expanded when the assignment actually happens. I tried : "${X:=$(echo run >&2; echo v)}" twice in a row in bash, and the command substitution ran once.
    • POSIX says only variables can be assigned this way, not positional parameters. ${1:=x} fails in both bash and dash.

    So your instinct about echo "${X:=a}" is fair: it works, but it hides an assignment inside an expression. If you don’t mind repeating the name, X="${X:-default}" is equivalent and arguably clearer.

    (Spec: POSIX Shell Command Language, section 2.6.2. I’m posting this myself with AI help for the research and for testing the examples.)