Well then why are we having this conversation?

Cool!

Oh well only a hundred million to go!

Because despite what everyone says, bots are still very easy to spot, and aren’t capable of creating the type of high quality submissions that keeps users there. And because I talk to people IRL every day that still use it. I’m yet to meet anyone in person who knows what the fediverse is.

Maybe this will encourage or entice people within or outside that wall to come to places like Lemmy

People say stuff like this all the time. History tells us that will not happen. There was a sitewide protest when they killed the API but no one left. History tells us there is fucking nothing these social media corporations can do to get people to leave. Because they have tried over and over again in recent years and it always fails. Maybe 1% finds somewhere else to spend their time.

E: you people need to familiarize yourself with the concept of hyperbole. I wasn’t looking for your anecdotes.

Thousands of people all browsing the site from the same account? Yeah Reddit would pick up on and ban that in a heartbeat.

there’s not a damn thing we can will do about it.

FTFY

I mean that implies he would not veto something if they did. Which is obviously not true. So an empty threat, keep voting.

Oh look, they did it again already.

It’s not empty when you’re the one receiving threats from the federal government.

I’m going specifically after Proton because of the fact that their PGP encryption doesn’t provide any additional value that users lack

This is not exclusive to Proton.

even when using Gmail you can send your mails with the same PGP encryption

As you already mentioned, Proton just makes this easier. Which is an entirely different discussion from how it’s supported on the other end. Also criticisms of PGP are not Proton’s responsibility or fault. None of this is specific to Proton.

All while with their services removes one of the only good things about email which is the ability to use your own client

Not necessarily, they created and published the Proton Mail Bridge. But this is an inherent limit of encrypted data. Once again, nothing to do with Proton. Tuta and Mailbox don’t support this either.

using email with rendering enabled is just a horrible for privacy either way.

See previous response about doctor’s appt.

Would be awesome honestly if we could replace email with Matrix

Something something candies and nuts

I got LASIK so I can play Steam Frame without glasses. $1700! WTF Valve!? /s

I understand completely. You Im not so sure about.

Thanks for adding all those children to Amazon’s tracking network.

…no? Obviously not.

You’re not just taking up umbrage with Proton, you’re taking it up with the concept of encrypted email entirely. And yes, E2EE is not really a thing with email, but your email data can be encrypted on your server. Proton also does a bunch of stuff like opening images server-side so they can’t be tracked. And I hate email with a passion and desperately wish we could get away from it entirely but until I can confirm my doctor’s appointment via Matrix, we don’t have a ton of choice in the matter.

I don’t think it does. The DOJ can continue to harass them. And possibly press charges. What will this judge do?

Looking through the article I don’t see anything being “shut down”. A judge told them to do something, which has historically been ineffective with this admin. Who’s going to jail if they keep doing it? No one? Guess what…

Not a “doomer”, just a realist, and I disagree. People need to stop being complacent.

Justice is absent.

Talk to me when he’s rotting in jail.