• Maya S. Trojan@piefed.blahaj.zone
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    6 days ago

    There may be no “after Trump”.

    People thought there was going to be an “after W. Bush” and then the democrats legalized and codified some of the worst excesses of Bush’s War on Terror.

    The things put in place by Trump that are dangerous will not be removed, just like the things that Bush put in place that are dangerous (DHS, ICE) will not be removed.

    This is what I mean when I say “both parties are the same” because by and large both are totally on board with wholesale spying on the US populace (and by extension treating us all as potential criminals/terrorists on no suspicion whatsoever) as long as they can make a buck along the way.

    There are very few Ron Wyden’s, who has essentially made his career trying to get people to understand how dangerous this mass surveillance is. He recently pointed out that there’s still classified legal interpretations from the Bush admin that even back then he claimed the US citizenry would absolutely lose their shit if they found out existed. He can’t tell us what it is, but he’s been warning us about it for 25 years.

    • CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world
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      6 days ago

      I still think it’s stupid to say both parties are the same because they have a few things in common. They have vastly more things not in common and asserting otherwise just undermines your point. Just say what you mean not some broad incorrect statement, both parties are bad when it comes to privacy, individual liberties or upholding constitutional protections

      • wheezy@lemmy.ml
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        6 days ago

        “Both parties are the same” is incorrect if you are viewing the parties based on their messaging or from a perspective of idealism.

        “Both parties are the same” is correct if you are viewing the parties based on the material outcomes of the actions they take and who they serve to benefit.

        The purpose of a system is what it does.

        -Stafford Beer

        The United States is also a one-party state, but with typical American extravagance, they have two of them

        -Julius Nyerere