freagle

Whether you intend it or not, this is a form of apologia.

The island that Haiti sits on would be completely inhabited by Taino right now if it wasn’t for the forcible European genocide. The people of Haiti today would not be descended from West Africa if not for the forcible human trafficking and enslavement of those people. The island would not split between Haiti and the DR if it were not for forcible European colonization backed up by overwhelming violence.

Obviously the people of Haiti have agency - they are the only successful slave revolt against Europeans. They have more agency than almost anyone else on the planet. But the fact that they are on that island, speak French, were human trafficked, split the island with the DR, and so many other things are absolutely the fault of the Europeans and the Haitians act with their agency within that forced context.

It’s almost like you’re saying that the Haitian people had sufficient agency to liberate themselves from their French slavers and therefore they also have the agency to take responsibility for the financial consequences, when France decided to levy a debt on Haiti for each slave they lost ownership of and every other European nation agreed. Haiti could have used their agency to say “fuck you we won’t pay such a debt” but then literally every single country around them was literally a European settler state and they would have no way to trade with anyone to feed their people. So they were forced, again, by Europeans to honor the debt they incurred by freeing themselves from forced European bondage. And then the US invaded Haiti and stole all of their banked gold reserves at gun point!

So yeah, the Haitian people are some of the most high agency people in history, but that doesn’t mean that the European globe spanning empire that has dominated the planet for 600 years and at its height dominated over 80% of the population of the world and forcibly trafficked, enslaved, genocided, assimilated, starved, and raped literally all of those people is somehow “just another example of evil that can be found in all cultures”

Specifically immigration regulation is often required to manage resources and prevent overloading

Caused by the centuries of continuous violence brought upon the majority of the peoples of the world by European empire

You are only accounting for half the equation. Why are there so many refugees from Haiti coming to the USA? Because of what the French did over the course of several centuries and what English, Americans, Canadians, Spanish, Portuguese, and others decided to do in support of what the French did.

Had Europeans not gone out and raped the world they wouldn’t need immigration controls that allowed their most vaunted progressive leader to deport over 3 million people while drone striking weddings and funerals.

Then why the fuck are you commenting on our politics! In the USA, the rule of law has produced the largest carceral state in the history of humanity. The US rule of law imprisons more people per capita than the Soviet GULAG did at its height and imprisons multiple times more people than China has ever imprisoned. The rule of law in the USA is a farce.

You’re username is a wonderful tell

LOL, “rule of law”. Are you honestly saying that without even a shred of awareness? The rule of law is a euphemism for murdering the poor. Immigration limits are needed because the Western world has been totally destroying the homes and lives of the global majority for 600 years.

So you’re saying they both did horrible things but one party did it in a way that gets their team to vote for them and the other party did it in a different way that was designed to get their team to vote for them?

Not really beating that Blue MAGA accusation