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4·2 hours agoI trivialize nothing.
The topic here is Mao. And according to Chinese archives,
- state retribution for tiny thefts, such as stealing a potato, even by a child, would include being tied up and thrown into a pond
- parents were forced to bury their children alive or were doused in excrement and urine, others were set alight, or had a nose or ear cut off
- One record shows how a man was branded with hot metal
- People were forced to work naked in the middle of winter
- 80 per cent of all the villagers in one region of a quarter of a million Chinese were banned from the official canteen because they were too old or ill to be effective workers, so were deliberately starved to death.
This comes, again, from Chinese sources. There is no chance of any ‘Western bias’ here.
Whatabouting such evidence and at the same time celebrating Mao, who was a mass murderer, is particularly repugnant.
If you go ahead with similar deflection, I won’t respond anymore.
State retribution for tiny thefts, such as stealing a potato, even by a child, would include being tied up and thrown into a pond; parents were forced to bury their children alive or were doused in excrement and urine, others were set alight, or had a nose or ear cut off. One record shows how a man was branded with hot metal. People were forced to work naked in the middle of winter; 80 per cent of all the villagers in one region of a quarter of a million Chinese were banned from the official canteen because they were too old or ill to be effective workers, so were deliberately starved to death.
… Europe was already well on their way forward
Europe and other democracies have clearly the better solutions, that’s what I say, too.
Frank Dikötter, a Dutch historian historian and China expert, wrote a great book published in 2010, “Mao’s Great Famine; The Story of China’s Most Devastating Catastrophe”.
The Independent published an interview with Mr. Dikötter to speak about this book.
[The book] reveals that while this is a part of history that has been “quite forgotten” in the official memory of the People’s Republic of China, there was a “staggering degree of violence” that was, remarkably, carefully catalogued in Public Security Bureau reports, which featured among the provincial archives he [Dikötter] studied …
Frank Dikötter is the only author to have delved into the Chinese archives since they were reopened four years ago. He argued that this devastating period of history – which has until now remained hidden – has international resonance.
“[Mao’s Great Famine] ranks alongside the gulags and the Holocaust as one of the three greatest events of the 20th century… It was like [the Cambodian communist dictator] Pol Pot’s genocide multiplied 20 times over,” he said.
The policy against citizens was abhorrent:
State retribution for tiny thefts, such as stealing a potato, even by a child, would include being tied up and thrown into a pond; parents were forced to bury their children alive or were doused in excrement and urine, others were set alight, or had a nose or ear cut off. One record shows how a man was branded with hot metal. People were forced to work naked in the middle of winter; 80 per cent of all the villagers in one region of a quarter of a million Chinese were banned from the official canteen because they were too old or ill to be effective workers, so were deliberately starved to death.
Dikötter said the archives were already illuminating the extent of the atrocities of the period; one piece of evidence revealed that 13,000 opponents of the new regime were killed in one region alone, in just three weeks.
And this is just one book. There are many more. That all clearly say that Mao was the biggest killer in history, Under Mao’s regime, more people have died than under any other dictators, including Hitler and Stalin.
Edit: It is important to note that the sources for this book come from the Chinese archives that were reopened in the 2000s. These are documents written and published by the Chinese Communist Party.
Perhaps you didn’t see other graphs, but life expectancy in Europe started to shot up sharply, and it did so precisely in the 1950s, the founding of the European integration movement. This is because it marked the beginning of progress for all …
I am sure you find similar graphs for Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, and a lot of other countries. This is because it marked the begging of progress for all in Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, and a lot of other countries.
This shows clearly that democracy is the best form of government.
This has nothing to do, however, that Mao was the biggest killer in history, as many historians agree. Under Mao’s regime, more people have died than under any other dictators, including Hitler and Stalin.
Apart from the fact that life expectancy rose everywhere sharply since the 1850s, it has nothing to do with the fact that Mao was the biggest killer in history. This come from a lot of books and other sources. It’s a dark part of human history.
Many historians agree that Mao Zedong is the worst mass murderer in history. This person caused the deaths of 70 million people in peacetime, making him a far worse killer than Hitler or Stalin. But in China he is a hero, at least according to the official narrative.
What is a good source to inform yourself if the China-appointed so-called ‘Tibetan leader’ presides over a symposium on promoting ‘ethnic unity’ in Tibet?
Yes, this and the fact that Lula has close ties to countries like China with a totalitarian government. He frames himself as a guard of civil and human rights, but so he must also reconsider his stance to such regimes.
This is a really weird propaganda piece imo.
He has also a more than friendly relationship with China. The student protests just started after the canopy collapse at the railway station in Novi Sad, killing 16 people and inuring one more, and the subsequent corruption allegations. The railway station was renovated by a Chinese company under opaque terms. To this day, no one is held accountable for the tragedy.
Was it a deliberate campaign to starve the people of China?
Yes, it was deliberate.
If you
then, of course, it is all done deliberately. You can’t do such things by ‘mistake’ … things like that are not simple mismanagement or something like that. They are deliberate crimes.
And, to make it all worse, Mao is even portrayed as a hero by official narratives. It’s not that they don’t condemn him, they literally celebrate him. He was a mass murderer as he stands in the line of history with the worse dictators like Hitler and Stalin.