• tempest@lemmy.ca
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    4 days ago

    The argument would be that they provide " higher quality, more targeted views" which is probably correct.

    Most people will fold and get the account, what’s one more " sign in with Google" on top of the 1000 other accounts.

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      3 days ago

      Most people will fold and get the account

      Well, except for the (apparently) vast swathes of long-time users who get permabanned for bullshit reasons (or no given reason at all) and then can’t make a new account because of “ban evasion.” I guess they just aren’t allowed to experience Reddit at all, even lurking.

      • Obituarykidney@lemmy.world
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        3 days ago

        I got banned for ban evasion recently. I do have two old accounts, but neither were banned before so idk why lol.

        Their website is so shit that I can’t even ask why. The auto mod sent me a DM and says if I want further info to reply to that message, but I have to accept the message request. Which I can’t do because I’m banned.

      • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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        3 days ago

        the reason is that, permban has caused many to just lurk on the site instead. even the ones that still have accts are afraid to login. they want people to login, but htier AI moderation/filters are still yay high. plus its not even stopping most bots / AI botting anyways, they can just create a single use account, post and move onto the next thing.

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        3 days ago

        This is a good point. You lose existing users through attrition. How do you attract new subscribers to a site they cannot see?

        They could leave the front top 50 posts of the day available as an attractor. With a “sign up to see more” banner at the end of the scroll. Is current leadership smart enough to do that?

        • altkey (he\him)@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          3 days ago

          They went with the assumption that as Google buys their data and replaces their links in search queue with LLM gen answers, their organic traffic from searches would get reduced into nothingness, so they can push their login requirement with little drawbacks. They increase price of each ad via personalization in a short run, but without a drag of the likes of Instagram, Discord, Whatsapp etc there would hardly be new users to create content.

        • a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world
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          3 days ago

          On the former, yes. Maybe we will luck into attrition being greater than the users they will attract.

          For the latter–maybe?

          At this point I think it is best for Reddit to quietly wind down and just go away. Eventually it is just going to be a right wing hellhole.

          • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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            3 days ago

            reddit already lost to attrition, which is why they want people login. first the purges came last year, reduced overall traffics and users, but not botters, then AI stop using reddit as a datamine, because its not useful if all your content is also AI generated.

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          3 days ago

          maybe they shouldnt do massive purges after the eleciton, and at musks request twice last year, that definitely had an effect users whos has been caught in the crossfire. not only the AI filters ban people on politics, but everyone else using the site, basically they only need a small inkling of “botting” to even ban you.