• Ann Archy@lemmy.world
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    WOW how much of a scumbag could you possibly get, like, we need to measure this shit because I think this motherfucker is setting some sort of global historical record.

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          Yeah that’s true, but we have to hold these people accountable without resorting to fascism and violence somehow.

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            The gulags were not fascist torture camps. Many of them were barely even prisons, like they were towns where people could move around freely and even go to the theater. They were definitely work camps, where people repaid their debts to society, and the ones for political prisoners had heavy reeducation programs. They were successful, too. Many of the people who were imprisoned for anti-communist/fascist activity became committed socialists by the time of their release (not surprising given the logical nature of Marxism).

            There’s a lot of misinformation out there about gulags, but when I say Musk belongs in one, it’s because he needs to work to repay all the damage he has done and if possible he needs to be re-educated. I don’t believe in prisons as punishment. I also don’t believe in capital punishment for people like Musk.

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                Soviet archival evidence shows that the purges were democratically initiated by the party at large and were initially very popular due to the real problem of capitalist sabotage They got worse when the NKVD became overzealous and stepped beyond the bounds that were given them. The evidence shows that Stalin actually spent more time trying to reign in the excesses, but was often unsuccessful largely due to the weakness of the Soviet state that was recovering from a brutal civil war.

                Of course, the purges were very excessive and rightly considered one of the big mistakes of the Stalin era, but the idea that they were his is ahistorical.

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                  No dude, Stalin was a facist at heart and only used communism to further his agenda. He killed anyone who he felt threatened his power and with paranoia. Idk where you get the idea that he was trying to reign in the purges. He wasn’t. Doctor’s Plot, the red purge, holodomor, his hatred of Jews, there’s way too much. Everyone was happy to see him gone, at least secretly (refer to the secret speech). He had terrorised all of USSR.

                  While the politburo did sign off on the purges (never said they weren’t complicit) it was NOT a democratic process. You need representation of voters there.

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              You’re focused on the “infrastructure” part of "forced infrastructure " and not the more important forced part.

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                Well, I dislike the propaganda that capitalists force down most of our throats. I like looking at the actual historical record instead.

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                People have a fond outlook of what the USSR was like. They neglect to see that they were an authoritarian society with a single party in charge which was willing to do anything to remain in power.

                Gulags were horrible places on all accounts.

                That wasn’t real communism. Just an ideal hijacked by meglomaniacs.

  • Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world
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    17 hours ago

    Never forget that during California wildfires less than 10 years ago, first responders were cut off from communications because Verizon cut them off.

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    Things like this should not be privately owned and relied on by militaries, it has this obvious problem, they need a reliable option from EU or Asian country should have one by now. The sooner the world stops trusting usa and fascist owned companies the better as they will betray at the drop of a hat.

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      Not privately owned? But state owned is equally problematic, simply be at war with that state — bam. It probably should be a sector of the UN that can be elected to by its separate constituents. Except the UN barely has teeth compared to America’s grill. If there were aliens, the rich would try to kill them because of the competition.

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      That’s why they call it communism and hate it more than they do Satan. Communally owned utilities can’t be someone’s personal money printer, and that’s a problem to them, because they really want that money and power at the expense of the common good long term societal stability.

      In my book, if you’re capitalist, you’re fascist. Capitalists have no ideals, no principles, they’re just fundamentally motivated by greed and voracity for more more more forever without any stated win condition. Precisely like cancer.

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    I miss when I was young and naive and thought the world was basically good. I feel like in today’s world I have to protect my nieces and nephews, and future children from what the world really is, which is just sad.

    The only solace I get occasionally is focusing on looking at the stars, and what’s out in space, and the vastness of it all, reminding me every once in a while that what happens on our little slice of the universe isn’t all there is.

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      The world was basically good because serious people created institutions to make the world good after the world almost destroyed itself with pointless war for two generations in a row. Unfortunately it seems we are more regressing to the mean of the world being shitty again.

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        And starling is polluting the night sky with millions of satellites.

        Enjoy stargazing while you still can. We likely only have a few years left.

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        Since when? We had the Vietnam war, Korean war, Dessert storm, countless interventions in the middle east. And don’t even get me started on what’s going on in Syria. World wars are flashy. But, we never stopped waging war after that. You sound like a bobble headed naive optimist telling me how great the world used to be after WW2.

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          The whole World is never great. Parts of it have had great times even when other parts suffer. From a North American viewpoint, their world has been more often good or great in the last century.

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      The vast majority of everyone wants what’s best for everyone else. We just all have really shitty information about each other.

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        We’re also dictated by a global system that indoctrinates us in a zero sum competitive and antagonistic mindset, which rewards you every step of the way for succumbing to it like feeding you little pellets like a pigeon.

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      World is basically good, there is a couple of bad apples that abusing good will of the rest of humanity.

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        Most people are basically good… to the people that matter personally to them. Unless they’re like Vash the Stampede, a typical person’s umbrella of empathy includes only friends and family they regularly see, not humanity in general.

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        Covid proved otherwise for me. There’s also countless wars, and dictators throughout history who have proven counter to your point. Just bcz some people are nice doesn’t mean the world is basically good.

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        Personally I’d like to see him travel vertically about three feet or so with a rope around his neck. No spaceships needed, we can build those later.

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    I hope there get to be alternatives to Starlink soon. Ideally it would be a publicly held company that (somehow) limits that no single individual can own more than 1% of the company. Honestly, that’s how all publicly traded companies should be set up!!

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      I want them all to get scrapped and never used. They are causing significant harm to scientific endeavors that matter an incredible amount more.

      Let alone contributing to harmful space debris travelling at insane speeds

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      One could argue that low earth orbit is a natural monopoly like water pipes, electricity poles or railroads, and should be owned by governments, that could rent bandwidth to companies.

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        There are a few problems with that, would it be owned by the UN with US, Russian, British, French and Chinese veto powers over its use? Would it just be one country, and then the US would be able to help let’s say Russia by turning down physical speed limits of internet connections for drones cutting out musk from the equation? Would it be based on whose airspace they are in at the time to rent out the data as required, thus stopping Ukraine from doing deep strikes into Russia? Also and most importantly figuring this out would be hard work and politicians are historically lazy on things that don’t affect them personally and why would they fight Elon musk to nationalize SpaceX or the satellites they own for Starlink when they can just sit back and be bribed much more easily?

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          They could build international hubs that any nation can add to and share the space. They built the ISS and ran it for long enough its technically possible. Not that I think the leaders of this world are capable of being long sighted on anything right now

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          Allot each country a certain number based off their population with a minimum of 1, and have that country pay for their satellites. Then each country decides what to do with them.